Monday, May 29, 2017

OK: Governor Fallin Signs SB 35, Carry for People with Valid Military ID




On 17 May, 2017, SB 35, the recognition of military, guard and reserve members to carry concealed weapons based on a military, reserve, or national guard valid I.D. card, was signed into law by Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin.

SB 35 was popular in the legislature. It passed the Senate on 15 March, 2017, 40-2.  It was amended on 11 April in the House. It passed the House  on 19 April, 2017, 85 - 0.  The amended version then passed the Senate unanimously, 46-0. It was signed by Governor Fallin on 17 May, 2017.

The act goes into effect on 1 November, 2017.
The bill will become part of Oklahoma carry law, which is about 14 pages long. Here is the definition of who may carry with a valid military I.D.  From state.ok.us (pdf):
2. The person is twenty-one (21) years of age or older, and is either:

a. active military, or

b. a member of the Reserve or National Guard to include Drill Status Guard and Reserve, Active Guard Reserves or Military Technicians, and presents a valid military identification card that shall be considered a valid handgun license issued pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act

People from other states who have a valid military I.D. are recognized. The reciprocity section at the end of the bill makes that clear. From state.ok.us (pdf):
A. Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed or unconcealed carry upon the authority and license of another state or a valid military identification card as provided for qualified persons in Section 1290.8 of this title is authorized to continue to carry a concealed or unconcealed firearm and license in this state; provided the license from the other state or valid military identification card as provided for qualified persons in Section 1290.8 of this title remains valid.
There are about 2 million active military and reserves in the United States, and about 460,000 national guard members. A significant number of them will be under the age of 21, but about 1.5 million will be 21 or older.

This increases the pool of people able to carry concealed weapons in Oklahoma by about 1.5 million, or about 10% more than already exist. The number of people in the United States with carry permits exceeds 15 million.

Another incremental step to extend the right to carry in Oklahoma would be to include veterans with an honorable discharge.

It could happen, but it seems more likely that Oklahoma will pass a "permitless" or Constitutional Carry reform first.

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6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Retirees and honorably discharged veterans were in the original bill, but that language was stripped out by committee.

As to your final comment, the legislature doesn't seem to have an appetite for it. I'm not saying we should quit fighting, but I am disheartened by how easily they are swayed by taxpayer-funded anti-gunners (OSBI, OU, OSU, etc).

Paul Weber said...

IT's step in the right direction. Now just extend it to all American citizens, after all it's their 2nd Amendment right.

Anonymous said...

If you are not trained to carry a weapon safely in the military no civilian is going to make a difference. but most of the people making these laws are draft dodgers from the 60s and 70s or millenials that have never touched a gun raised by the draft dodgers. Or they have lived in a big city all of their lives where the cops shoot six year olds with plastic ray guns. How many kids do you see these days with a daisy red rider BB gun learning to shoot AND GUN SAFETY FROM THEIR FATHER? I started out with a daisy pump action BB gun. Put a spoon full of jelly on a piece of ply wood and shooting flies at ten feet. I hit an awful lot of flies. 200 BBs in a pack and I could not take the gun in the house if it was loaded. when is the last time you saw a cap pistol revolver. I loved to try new things, found a piece of pipe in the desert with a plug welded in one end and a small hole in the plug. I set down and tore the dots out of a box or roll caps. Put them into the piece of pipe. put a patch over the cap centers and poured in some BBs. while tamping down the BBs I heard a sound and let go of the tamp rod. Nearly blew a hole in the roof of the shed. Filled a n empty CO2 cartridge with kitchen match heads put it in a piece of pipe and lit the fuse I made, knocked a board off the shed wall. I learned to be a little safer with things that go bang in the army with an EOD rating.

KUETSA said...

So let's fully understand this now . . .

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of law enforcement officials . . . and first responders in some places . . . and now people with valid military ID . . . politicians - judges . . . armed security for anti-gun billionaires . . . (am I forgetting any special class of Americans who are more important than "regular" expendable Americans and are therefore worthy of FULL UNINFRINGED constitutional rights?) to KEEP AND BEAR arms, shall not be infringed.

ALL "NON-SPECIAL-CASE-REGULAR" Americans are not covered by constitutional guarantees and will COMPLY with all federal-state-local INFRINGMENTS-LIMITS-BANS-REGULATIONS- AND DISARMAMENT LAWS as dictated under penalty of prosecution and incarceration.

WHAT THE HELL DON'T THEY UNDERSTAND???
THE RIGHT OF THE "PEOPLE" - NOT SPECIAL DESIGNATED PEOPLE WHO ARE ABOVE THE LAW

Anonymous said...

OK Folks lets get serious. How many have even heard of the act of 1871? I want every one reading this to stop and think. What is the only legal way to change our federal constitution? If you said by an amendment ratified by the people YOU WIN. Acts, resolutions and laws that attempt to change any thing in the constitution are void on their face. The federal government in 1871 passed an act that turned the United States of America into the corporation of the united States. there is no authority to do that written into the constitution, therefore the act of 1871 is unconstitutional but the government has been working on the premise that it is legal and constitutional. Many laws are based on that premise. In fact an estimated 63 million laws acts and regulations are based on that premise.
The constitution makes us a constitutional republic not a democracy. we have a democratic form of government but we are a republic. the constitution requires the federal government to guarantee every state of the union a republican form of government No corporate control is permitted. Corporate control changes guaranteed rights into privileges. Repeal the act of 1871 and watch all hell break loose. the noise of the swamp draining would be deafening.

The constitution belongs to the people. The government has no authority to change the constitution in any way without the permission of the people. the people existed before the government we created the government, the government did not create us. read the oath of office. every politician that has ever been elected has to take an oath of office. that oath requires them to uphold and enforce the constitution as written not as they please or pass an act to get around what it requires.

Anonymous said...

Continued: I'm on Social security, I paid in some 43 years. Social Security is an illegal Ponzi scheme but it is the only thing government ever did that works. Until the democrats passed SSA Title 4-D and started draining the fund from the bottom up. Paying for every one of their give away welfare programs. so they would not take the heat for raising taxes. at one time, about 50 years ago the social security fun had in excess of 8 trillion dollars in reserves. Now it is being drained so fast it is nearly bankrupt. If you don't believe me set down and read title 4-D. The states can get up to 95 percent, dollar for dollar of all child support ordered in that state for their general funds to be used any way that state sees fit.

In 2008 I was in Texas when the governor of Texas was bragging about his dead beat dad child support recovery program. He claimed he had recovered about 4.5 billion dollars for the state under title 4-D. Every state does it. the act of 1871 is why we can not get our constitutional gun rights enforced. the corporation treats our bill of rights as privileges.